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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2013.09.03 08:01:00 -
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There have been some changes to the upcoming Caldari Bootcamp event, mostly good changes like moving the starting date to Wednesday after downtime to coincide with the weekly SP cap reset and counting all points gained towards the multiplier, not just warpoints. You can see a more detailed description here,
http://dust514.com/events/experience-uprising-10-4-with-the-caldari-bootcamp/
However, if you want to maximize your SP gain for the event you must play Ambush exclusively. Let me explain, the formula for active skill points gained:
(seconds in battle) x 5 + (warpoints earned) = skill points rewarded
Furthermore, the average Skirmish around 15 minutes long. So if we calculate how many points you'd get just from participating in a skirmish it's:
15 minutes x (60 seconds/minute) x (5 skill points/second) = 4500 skill points
So by playing a skirmish you are automatically ensuring that 1500 of your skill points will not qualify for the 2x multiplier. Now let's look at the real problem that ensues here. Let's say the average Ambush take about half as long, so that's 7 and a half minutes and 2250 skill points.
If you were to play exclusively Ambush and hit your cap, none of your points will go over the 3000 limit meaning your bonus pay out will be a full 190,400 skill points.
If you were to play exclusively Skirmish, it would take just as long but at least 1500 of your points would not count towards the bonus. So lets see, at 4500 points from participating and say an average of 500 warpoints gained, that's 5000 skill points per match. That will take about 38 matches. 2000 skill points from each match is not counted, so 38 x 2000 = 76,000 skill points. Meaning at the end of the event you'd earn 190,400 - 76,000 = 114,400 skill points.
The same amount of playing time is done, but the person who plays Ambush is getting rewarded more simply because the matches are broken down into smaller chunks to avoid going over this artificial limit (what is the point of having it in the first place?)
So if you want to max your skill points for the event, you better only play Ambush. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1473
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Posted - 2013.09.03 08:44:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Edit: I didn't notice you already posted math.
so...75k x 1.5 (booster bonus) means I'm losing out on about 110k. Seriously, it isn't worth it. Yup, I suppose it's really not enough to get all fussed about, but I'm pointing it out more on the principle of getting punished for playing different gamemodes. I'll probably do Skirmish as usual too, but it's still stupid. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1473
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Posted - 2013.09.03 08:55:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Edit: I didn't notice you already posted math.
so...75k x 1.5 (booster bonus) means I'm losing out on about 110k. Seriously, it isn't worth it. Yup, I suppose it's really not enough to get all fussed about, but I'm pointing it out more on the principle of getting punished for playing different gamemodes. I'll probably do Skirmish as usual too, but it's still stupid. Oh good you're not one of the crazies. Sorry, I must not have my glasses on. I could have sworn I saw foam spewing from your mouth like the rest of them. My sincerest apologies.
Ha! I'm not a crazy in the slightest. I actually gave up my 7+ million SP toon when Uprising hit because he was Gallente and I wanted to go full out Amarr even for my merc HQ, so honestly I don't give much of a sh** about skill points. But still, seeing stuff like this ticks me just a bit. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1473
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Posted - 2013.09.03 09:12:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I love ambush! This is awesome. However I usually get 800 wp+ in it so I'd be going over the 3000 cap right? Damn... Looks like ill have to buy a 1 day booster for the 4500 match cap then.
Actually you may want to buy a 7 day booster, because the event carries on past the cap. So if you get 1000 SP at the end because you're capped, that's 2000 points because of the event. If you're using a booster, thats 1500 SP because you're capped so 3000 because of the event. 3000 SP after you're capped is actually quite a good incentive to keep on grinding. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1473
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Posted - 2013.09.03 09:40:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:broonfondle majikthies wrote:Dammit. I can't stand Ambush. and for the event I'm positive it'll be even more of a proto/tank stomp.
Sod it, sticking to Dom/Skirmish With the hit detection / swarm changes coming, I don't think tanks / proto are going to be much of a factor. ... unless your entire team are a bunch of AR-humping idiots. I believed when i see it ... I personally don't think the changes to the Swarm Launcher are significant enough to stop "The God Tanks" out there, maybe just enough to kill the "Bad Tankers and NooB Tankers" a "bit" faster.
I'm still a believer than infantry AV should really be aimed at assisting your vehicles destroy other vehicles, not take out vehicles by themselves (though make it certainly possible). If the enemy team has tanks and your team doesn't, well then that's your problem.
This is a debate for a different thread though. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1474
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Posted - 2013.09.03 10:08:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:All these different events are so stupidly confusing, why doesnt 3x SP = 3x SP
i should have my cap at 570k and tripple SP earned per WP in match, same applying to soft cap, if i hit 1000wp i should be getting 3000sp max - AFTER cap
cant they just ******* keep it simple
CCP, creating problems where none existed  |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1475
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Posted - 2013.09.03 10:19:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:All these different events are so stupidly confusing, why doesnt 3x SP = 3x SP
i should have my cap at 570k and tripple SP earned per WP in match, same applying to soft cap, if i hit 1000wp i should be getting 3000sp max - AFTER cap
cant they just ******* keep it simple CCP, creating problems where none existed basically im just going to run militia gear and TRY not to pubstomp every match to avoid wasting bonus SP Are you really "wasting" bonus SP if you typically get over 3000 WP per ambush though? Do you mean wasting time, because if you left mid match and started a new game then you could reach your (bonus-cap) for the event sooner?
By "wasting" he means every skill point earned past 3000 in a match counts towards your weekly cap but does not get counted in the 2x multiplier, so it's "wasted." |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1477
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:31:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Is there anything this community won't whine about? My 8 year old daughter doesn't complain this much. Try playing the game and enjoying it instead of knit picking everything just to find something to cry about. Not whining, as brought up in this thread's discussion I don't really care about skill points. It's not about complaining, it's about knocking common sense into the brains of CCP.
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